Admin niche sites

[Mark.B]

I'm interested in views on the general 'admin niche', in terms of forums.

Obviously this is technically one such site, but it's brand new. What of the more established sites?

The Admin Zone - once the leader (indeed, arguably it still is) but nothing like as popular as it used to be. Allegations of favouritism towards XenForo, but that allegation gets levelled at practically everyone.
Admin Talk - abandoned by its owners. Used to be quite active when Brandon had it, fell away a bit when Bob had it, now it's died on its backside and the current owners only ever appear to tell people they aren't selling it!
Admin Hub, started fairly recently by Paul, seems to be gaining some traction and it arguably the most promising of the current crop.

What other admin sites are there at the moment?

[GTB]

While my forum is not an admin forum specifically, we do have a section for admin discussion that does OK.

So guess I'll list mine as being an alternative for using also.

[Mark.B]

While my forum is not an admin forum specifically, we do have a section for admin discussion that does OK.

So guess I'll list mine as being an alternative for using also.

Got to admit Gary, after many years of trying, your site has gained some traction recently. I'm glad to see that. I think yourself and Paul both benefit from the utter mess that is TAZ these days.

[GTB]

Actually the forum has been going through a quiet spell past few months, it was far more active when first started for months afterwards. But members like Paul got the itch to start his own forum again after seeing mine do OK for a while, after that things have simmered down a lot on my forum with Pauls now splitting some of the members across both sites. It has its moments still, one minute very quiet and next can be getting a few posts made like last night.

I dislike saying our forums benefited from TAZ not doing so well these days. Members not posting there nowadays, they have not left to join mine or Paul's forum... so we've benefited from nothing at all with that forum (bar some lurkers coming from it) reading as guests. Some of my members was not even on TAZ and came from WBB forum.

I don't think TAZ has gone downhill because of the XenForo "thing", nor anything else like that. I simply think people are losing interest in running forums, and using admin forums "once they stop running one". TAZ is feeling the effects of that, it has been on the decline last few years as an admin forum but things have now become much more noticeable with the site, they lost too many posters now.

[GTB]

after many years of trying, your site has gained some traction recently.

I think some of that has to do with the way I've changed personally in running this forum. Also, I decided to try something different using WBB that nobody else at time was using. That in itself as I thought it might do, maybe got some joining up to test it out for using themselves.

It was a right choice to go with using WBB, it is good forum software for using.

[Paul]

But members like Paul got the itch to start his own forum again after seeing mine do OK for a while

Yes, that's it. I saw how great your forum was doing, Gary, and just had to start one for myself, lol. I think it might be something other than cigarettes that you're smoking.

[Paul]

What other admin sites are there at the moment?

If you mean mainly forum admin sites, I don't know of any others than those mentioned. Quite a few that were around have been merged with TAZ. I consider forums like Digital Point and Webmaster World to be admin sites although they seem to be focused on making money above anything else.

[GTB]

Oh, come on Paul. You said you was finished with running forums, said they was a waste of time until mine started doing OK.

Suddenly, you was back interested in started one again. And what did you start, a general discussion forum same as mine running on WBB same.

I'm not bothered what you do Paul, really I'm not. But don't get why you act like your forum and mine are in competition with each other, with your sidekick Tool coming backing you up? Your admin forum is in direct competition with TAZ. You're an Admin forum, not a General Discussion forum.

[Paul]

Oh, come on Paul. You said you was finished with running forums, said they was a waste of time until mine started doing OK.

I said I was burnt out on forums at the time and I might get back into them in the future, which I did.

Suddenly, you was back interested in started one again. And what did you start, a general discussion forum same as mine running on WBB same also.

You mean the forum that I started after you got upset with Adam and his redirects to your forum? I've told you that was an experiment and I wasn't expecting much from it, Adam was the one who suggested that I use WBB or XF. You really screwed yourself with getting upset at Adam the way you did, your forum could have been A LOT more active than it is now.

I'm not bothered what you do Paul. I just don't get why you act afterwards like your forum and mine are in competition with each other, with your sidekick Tool backing you up? Your admin forum is in direct competition with TAZ forum . You're an Admin forum, not a General Discussion forum.

You're the one who seems to think that they are in competition with each other, not me. You call your forum a general discussion forum but most of your topics are about admin related things. Honestly, it doesn't bother me one way or the other what you talk about there (except when you stole form my forum), I just wish you would get off thinking that your forum had anything to do with why I started Admin-Hub, it had zero influence in my decision to start it.

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I'm sorry but I have to say that I'm not liking this editor at all.

[GTB]

All because my forum might talk about a same topic - that might be talked about on your forum,, that doesn't mean it was copied from your forum Paul. You don't own the rights to be the only forum on web that can talk about certain things, get real Paul.

Show me one topic on my forum that was copied from yours? By copied, I mean "copied word for word", not the same subject being talked about that you have no rights over what-so-ever. Same way you find same news stories talked about on lots of different news agency website each day. You're living in dreamland Paul, you think just because your forum talks about something, no other site has a right to talk about the same thing happening or going on. If they you claim they copied your forum, lol.

[Mark.B]

I remember Admin Talk got going years ago by copying some old subjects from TAZ. Not copying the actual posts or even actual titles, but just starting topics on the same subjects TAZ had discussed over the years. I see nothing wrong in that, except tyat if you were to specifically copy every single subject from one site to your own it would look a bit obvious.

Actul copying of post content is wrong, obviously.

[GTB]

He started a topic on his forum last night about same thing I posted on my forum "beforehand".

Does that mean he copied it from my forum about the Emoji smilies coming in WBB 4.2. See, he does exact same thing himself but thinks it OK for him to do it, but not anyone else talk about same thing posted on his forum first.

Seriously, this is just hilarious and he's only looking "for anything" he can try and use to bash my forum over. He's fast becoming a joke, in keep trying to do it that will get him nowhere anyway!

[GTB]

I remember Admin Talk got going years ago by copying some old subjects from TAZ. Not copying the actual posts or even actual titles, but just starting topics on the same subjects TAZ had discussed over the years. I see nothing wrong in that, except tyat if you were to specifically copy every single subject from one site to your own it would look a bit obvious.

Which is no different from you going on BBC News website and reading same stories posted each day - that you can also read posted on many other News website covering same thing but written differently. No one sites owns the rights to a TOPIC SUBJECT.

if that was the case, that means your BCFORUMS is just a clone of BBC News website. Because you talk about a lot of stuff taken from that news site. Or any site that brings in RSS Feeds from other sites also, like Paul's forum does from other forum software sites is just copying stuff.

[Paul]

He started a topic on his forum last night about same thing I posted on my forum "beforehand".

I didn't visit your forum yesterday and saw Dilip's comment on WoltLab. There is no problem with talking about news you have read on the web, but that's not what you do, Gary. You can't come up with an original idea for a topic on your own so you have to steal them from other forums, this is why Howard banned you from TAZ the first time.

[GTB]

You're being ridiculous Paul